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Posted: 13:39 - 05 May 2024 Post subject: This what some folk pay good money for |
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Whilst repairing, servicing and tarting up the wee SH125 I removed the
Spy 5000 alarm supplied and fitted by WWS motorcycles for the
previous owner.
The remotes had long been lost and I decided it was best out of the way and if the next
owner wants an alarm they'll have a clear deck with no redundant wiring cluttering the
thing up.
There are various ways to plumb in an alarm and I wondered what I'd find
Scotchloks, crimps, solder, terminal blocks etc?
Nope, WWS motorcycles in Bristol had done their usual shabby work
and just twisted wires together and wrapped some tape over it all.
I'm told this cost him 3 times the value of the actual alarm itself
These are get you home bodges not in any way what you'd expect when you pay for a 'professional' installation.
I've done similar in an emergency and conciously bodged things for testing/experimenting
but not even a blob of solder on these permanent joints indicates their standard of work.
Main power take off
https://imgur.com/2YfzOX6.jpg
Link to remote starting
https://imgur.com/W1CnwQe.jpg
Side stand switch, more cut, twist and tape
https://imgur.com/Dd23nwP.jpg ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 17:50 - 05 May 2024 Post subject: |
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I had similar from MotoCal in Edinburgh when they were still on the go. They fitted an immobiliser to my brand new MZ. Only the second (and last) new bike I ever bought. After about 18 months it started occasionally misfiring or cutting out, culminating in it conking out entirely one hogmanay with no spark. After two days of searching and testing all the ignition componants on the pavement outside my brothers house, I eventually found a bit of PVC tape on one of the CDI wires which had no business being there. It had been cut then twisted back together and wrapped in tape. I can only assume they had been going to route it through the immobaliser then changed their mind (it would have been a good one, rendered the bike immobile).
This is one of several reasons why I have trust issues with motorcycle dealers and mechanics. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Posted: 02:58 - 07 May 2024 Post subject: Re: This what some folk pay good money for |
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WD Forte wrote: | Whilst repairing, servicing and tarting up the wee SH125 I removed the
Spy 5000 alarm supplied and fitted by WWS motorcycles for the
previous owner.
The remotes had long been lost and I decided it was best out of the way and if the next
owner wants an alarm they'll have a clear deck with no redundant wiring cluttering the
thing up.
There are various ways to plumb in an alarm and I wondered what I'd find
Scotchloks, crimps, solder, terminal blocks etc?
Nope, WWS motorcycles in Bristol had done their usual shabby work
and just twisted wires together and wrapped some tape over it all.
I'm told this cost him 3 times the value of the actual alarm itself
These are get you home bodges not in any way what you'd expect when you pay for a 'professional' installation.
I've done similar in an emergency and conciously bodged things for testing/experimenting
but not even a blob of solder on these permanent joints indicates their standard of work.
Main power take off
https://imgur.com/2YfzOX6.jpg
Link to remote starting
https://imgur.com/W1CnwQe.jpg
Side stand switch, more cut, twist and tape
https://imgur.com/Dd23nwP.jpg |
Trading Standards need to visit.
Maybe a battery charger fire could happen. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Posted: 20:29 - 10 May 2024 Post subject: |
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Scary stuff. It's difficult to get someone to trust. Thankfully my go to for bike issues is very professional Not cheap though. I would be lying if I said I hadn't done a splice by twisting the wires and a bit of electrical tape. Things were so much better back then. I used to be good at tinning. |
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Posted: 05:36 - 11 May 2024 Post subject: |
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I'm in no way saying that everyone should be an expert in everything, but...
Having at least an inkling of what's involved may just give you a fighting chance.
I need a roof, the roof I have leaks. Because I'm pedantic I know exactly why it's leaking and how to remedy the situation, but like buggery am I getting up a ladder - so I'm getting a man in to fix it. Because I've taken the time to do a little learning, I'm far less likely to be in the situation where some pikey charges me twenty grand to whack some silicone around a tile...
By changing the details slightly, that example could be used for many other scenarios.
Also, there are situations where it really is more economically viable to get things done for you - I charge more per hour than the majority of my customers earn themselves, but because I can do it faster and better than they can it works out in their favour (they give me say 2 hours of their earnings for an hour of my work, the same thing might take them 4 hours and be worse at the end). It may not be that I'm fantastic, but I have a practiced efficiency.
So, should everyone who operates a motor vehicle be able to rebuild an engine? Well no, if course not - but they should at least be capable of pumping up tyres, checking oil and maybe changing a bulb. They are of course free to choose to pay someone to do those things too, but they have no justification to complain about the price and they should also be able to spot when it's properly shoddy work.
(Oh, and yes I have analysed my pension - in a previous life I was a web publisher for a pension company and I did a bit of proof reading too, so I had an education through osmosis... For me, a specific type of pension plan works out better than life insurance/assurance and in the event of my demise there will be sufficient funds to cover setting me on fire, paying for at least 3 people to get mildly tipsy, and planting a tree.) ____________________ Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you. |
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WD Forte wrote: |
I think at first he thought I was just being a sarcastic foul mouthed
old bastard and maybe I am, |
Never! ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 08:43 - 11 May 2024 Post subject: |
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pdg wrote: | I'm in no way saying that everyone should be an expert in everything, but...
Having at least an inkling of what's involved may just give you a fighting chance.
I need a roof, the roof I have leaks. Because I'm pedantic I know exactly why it's leaking and how to remedy the situation, but like buggery am I getting up a ladder - so I'm getting a man in to fix it. Because I've taken the time to do a little learning, I'm far less likely to be in the situation where some pikey charges me twenty grand to whack some silicone around a tile...
By changing the details slightly, that example could be used for many other scenarios.
Also, there are situations where it really is more economically viable to get things done for you - I charge more per hour than the majority of my customers earn themselves, but because I can do it faster and better than they can it works out in their favour (they give me say 2 hours of their earnings for an hour of my work, the same thing might take them 4 hours and be worse at the end). It may not be that I'm fantastic, but I have a practiced efficiency.
So, should everyone who operates a motor vehicle be able to rebuild an engine? Well no, if course not - but they should at least be capable of pumping up tyres, checking oil and maybe changing a bulb. They are of course free to choose to pay someone to do those things too, but they have no justification to complain about the price and they should also be able to spot when it's properly shoddy work.
(Oh, and yes I have analysed my pension - in a previous life I was a web publisher for a pension company and I did a bit of proof reading too, so I had an education through osmosis... For me, a specific type of pension plan works out better than life insurance/assurance and in the event of my demise there will be sufficient funds to cover setting me on fire, paying for at least 3 people to get mildly tipsy, and planting a tree.) |
Many people do not give a flying fuk.
Understand this.
Many people don't even care how rain gets into their kettle.
They don't care. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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I'm not allowed out often.
Ooh, but guess what? I deliberately purchased some E5 petrol last night (as opposed to picking up the wrong handle to fill my can). A whole 5 litres of it.
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https://i.giphy.com/4LRkCWLi2MKOc.webp ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 38k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 49k. |
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